Cooper S vs Cooper Ride Quality?
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Well, I was able to test drive an 2005 S convertible and a 2006 non-S convertible yesterday. Both rode too firmly for these old bones. So I guess I may be going back to a Boxster or looking at a BMW four seater. The car must have enough room for two bags and a set of golf clubs.
Thanks to all of those who posted. The hunt was fun while it lasted.
Jack
Thanks to all of those who posted. The hunt was fun while it lasted.
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dan and dr mini.. yea it was NUKED.. I sure did NOT remove the great saying of the year... are you STONED or STUPIC. ??
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Kenatminimania,
That's exactly the info I was looking for. I really like the Mini I have identified but driving it means spending an extra day on this trip. I will be able to test drive a plain non-S Cooper today. If I bought the S could I put the non-S springs and shocks on it? If so, what would that cost?
That's exactly the info I was looking for. I really like the Mini I have identified but driving it means spending an extra day on this trip. I will be able to test drive a plain non-S Cooper today. If I bought the S could I put the non-S springs and shocks on it? If so, what would that cost?
Drop me an email on the springs and shocks <[email protected]>
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Yes, BC's not STUPIC, that's just the way the message board people say it. Goes way back. Also, FWIW, BC doesn't go back and remove his threads, the Message Board administrator does that, but that's another Stoned or Stupic story.
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jborchel.. run flats on classic mini?/ are you STONED or just plain STUPIC?? later bc
You've met one of our (very) long-time members, otherwise known as BC or Bill. He can be cantankerous but generally well-meaning when it comes to Minis. Since he withdrew his remark, I suspect he missed the fact we were talking about new MINIS and assumed classic Mini, since this site is predominantly though not exclusively about the classics.
The phrase "are you STONED or just plain STUPIC??" is another part of the vernacular around here.
(And "stupic" with a "c" is how it is spelled around here.)
Do not take it to heart.
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Kenatminimania,
That's exactly the info I was looking for. I really like the Mini I have identified but driving it means spending an extra day on this trip. I will be able to test drive a plain non-S Cooper today. If I bought the S could I put the non-S springs and shocks on it? If so, what would that cost?
That's exactly the info I was looking for. I really like the Mini I have identified but driving it means spending an extra day on this trip. I will be able to test drive a plain non-S Cooper today. If I bought the S could I put the non-S springs and shocks on it? If so, what would that cost?
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Didn't early 1275GT's have run flats?
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jborchel.. run flats on classic mini?/ are you STONED or just plain STUPIC?? later bc
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Spitz; I wish I'd said that
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
All MINIs came with runflats. The Cooper had an option for a spare tire mounted under the car in the rear. Cooper S did not have a spare tire option.
Runflats have a very firm sidewall so the ride is very firm (and the tires are heavy). Most owners ditch the runflats and go with standard tires which greatly improves the ride quality and handling. They carry a flat-fix-kit, a spare, or use roadside assistance.
Cooper had 15" tires as an option - these would be the most 'comfortable'. As you go to 16" and 17", the ride quality goes down, but the handling response improves.
Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Dan Moffet
Spitz; I wish I'd said that
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
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Spitz; I wish I'd said that
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
jborchel: the 2006 Cooper convertible would seem a little softer than the S-version. Presumably the S has an up-rated suspension for better handling. But I doubt the difference in ride would be significantly harsher under normal driving. Then again, being used cars, you would have no idea if the previous owners had done anything to up-rate either car (S or non-S) or how tired either one might be from age.
Try the non-S and see if you like it, bearing in mind it won't compare to your current vehicle, whatever it is. All things being equal, the S version should have crisper handling and a slightly firmer ride.
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Take a spin in a classic MINI....you'll probably realise then that your BMW ride is softer than you think...lol
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It's a 2006 Cooper S convertible that I am interested in. Since I have to go way out of my way to see the car but can test a 2006 Cooper convertible I am trying to see if the Cooper feels ok then I can make the decision to make the trip.
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You need to specify whether you are talking about classic Minis made by British Leyland, Rover etc., or new MINIS made by BMW.
Specifying a year would be a good start, especially with new MINIS, since the specs change from year to year.
Specifying a year would be a good start, especially with new MINIS, since the specs change from year to year.
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Is there a difference? If so can the shocks and springs be swapped to soften the S ride?